Dougie’s Monday Mailbag (Joshua-Pulev, Joshua vs. Fury, Chris Colbert, Shakur Stevenson, Masayoshi Nakatani)
i’m hoping you’re neatly and tuned into the boxing on Saturday evening! I all the time stump up the PPV price to observe AJ. I even have a little bit of a tender spot for him for two motives, one, Joshua v Klitschko changed into the battle that cemented my graduation from boxing fan to boxing fanatic and two, I’m from the equal part of the area as the Watford man.
instantly after the combat i used to be very impressed with Joshua’s performance, and i turned into shocked to peer the blended reactions from some media outlets and fans. What they saw as Joshua being caught between two patterns I saw as him effortlessly mixing the jab and circulate trend he used to beat Ruiz and the are seeking for and smash style he used to upward thrust to the appropriate in the first place.
Joshua by no means seemed in crisis and managed after which brutally knocked a online game and talented, albeit somewhat static fighter in Pulev. In my books that warrants compliment.
I settle for Fury is a an awful lot greater gifted fighter than Pulev and i would have the Gypsy King as a small ordinary however I accept as true with Joshua would have a fine possibility of successful that tremendous combat.
What are your ideas on Saturday evening’s motion and the capabilities mega unification battle? Thanks for every little thing. – Tommy, London
i assumed Joshua looked sharp, technically speaking, and versatile in terms of his trend and strategies. He didn’t at all times appear at ease in there (even when he was smiling, mugging and talking to Pulev), but I don’t hang that against him. He changed into only one bout removed from a devastating stoppage loss (and even corridor of famers – from Joe Louis to Wladimir Klitschko – need a couple of bouts to recapture their mojo after struggling a brutal KO)
and he became within the ring with a little of a nutcake. Pulev isn’t simply hard, he’s off-the-f__king-hinges online game. He doesn’t simply smile when he gets hit complicated, he laughs out loud, and when he’s decked, he gets lower back up for more punishment. That’s a lot to cope with, however i thought Joshua dealt with all of it – Pulev, public force, self-doubts, etc. – very well. I don’t pay plenty heed to the Twitter criticism. Canelo isn’t the only elite fighter available together with his personal #Salty Society. definite enthusiasts are going to hate Joshua no count what he does, and the proper motives for his or her hate really has nothing to do with boxing.
i was very impressed with Joshua’s efficiency, and i changed into shocked to see the mixed reactions from some media shops and fanatics. i was also impressed. I wasn’t surprised that there have been negative reactions to Joshua’s performance as a result of he’s bought haters and there’s a lot of miserable bastards on social media who similar to s__t on the rest, but I didn’t take note it. If Joshua had stunk out the enviornment with a safety first approach that went the full 12, I might be mindful some fans and media declaring that he’d lost his fighting heart. Had he been reckless in his pursuit of a stoppage and turned into dropped or damage in the system, I might keep in mind fans and media saying he’s inclined or even sloppy. but his method turned into on point, and he wasn’t too tentative or overly aggressive. It changed into a great, balanced performance towards a reduce-proper 10 heavyweight. And it wasn’t boring!
What they saw as Joshua being caught between two patterns I saw as him effectively blending the jab and move style he used to beat Ruiz and the searching for and wreck fashion he used to upward push to the top within the first vicinity. I noticed the identical factor you did.
Joshua in no way regarded in situation and controlled after which brutally knocked a game and talented, albeit quite static fighter in Pulev. In my books that warrants compliment. identical here. He acquired hit with some one-twos that he shouldn’t have, he regarded a little uncomfortable here and there, and maybe tried too difficult to get into Pulev’s head with the smiling and speaking, but good day, it’s a prize battle. Guys are gonna get tagged, it’s going to get uncomfortable and there’s going to be some psychological gamesmanship while the leather-based is traded.
I accept Fury is a lots greater proficient fighter than Pulev and that i would have the Gypsy King as a small customary but I agree with Joshua would have a pretty good possibility of profitable that super combat. I feel it’s very close to being a 50-50 matchup, but I do supply Fury a mild aspect, so let’s say it’s 55-forty five or 60-40.
combat OF THE big BOYS
Sir Douglass of la.
i am hoping you and the family unit are well and decent. The stage is decided for a different huge heavyweight battle (and a ton of alternative enjoyable healthy usabetween the contenders, however that’s for one more day). Who do you favour nowadays within the Fury-Joshua fight?
AJ showed some layers and wrinkles to his game the day past that makes the combat very fascinating. AJ looks like he’s getting near mixing a more safe boxing fashion using his high-quality amateur pedigree and measurement – with the basic aggregate punching, hooks n uppercuts during the roof style we all like to see. I don’t think he’s rather there yet with this new and more desirable boxer-puncher fashion nevertheless it’s making the battle greater intriguing to me then again!
I also preferred AJ attempting to do what Fury (and most elite opponents) achieve this smartly – making the opponent work without needing to throw, AJ spent most of four and 5 doing this. once more although, it wasn’t super effective yet, perhaps partly due to Pulev displaying notable smarts, coronary heart and an incredible fuel tank, specifically for his age.
AJ’s simplest obtrusive solution to beat Fury in my eyes is for him to find a means to get in that shut/mid-latitude with regularity and probably early in the battle, AJ throws most of his choicest punches in that range and is always a hit there (apart from towards Ruiz the place he met a man with quicker arms and a love for combos). Fury gained’t are looking to fight in that range though, and it gained’t be effortless for AJ to get in his preferred range. Fury will desire it lengthy or in very shut the place he’s super comfy!
although AJ is showing extra versatility, I don’t think he’s there yet with it and Fury’s comfortability combating in pretty a great deal any course this battle could go makes him my customary.
but. What a battle it will be and i hope we get two or three fights between the massive men as i will be able to most effective see AJ improving, the colossus is a pretty good scholar of the video game which is what all opponents blessed with natural physicality and athleticism should take from AJ’s remarkable profession. He’s also the most effective boxer my wife will watch, i wonder why?????? top-rated. – Luke
Hmmmm… that might have a bit something to do with the #saltiness AJ receives from some enthusiasts.
It goes without saying that Fury-Joshua is a desirable matchup. Let’s not even get into their personalities and recognition unless the rattling combat is made. For now I’ll just say that their styles mesh and abilities mesh neatly. Joshua is the greater athlete, however Fury is the extra herbal boxing skill. Joshua has more suitable conditioning habits, however Fury is in a position to calm down more within the ring, which permits him to fight more effectively down the stretch of distance bouts. Joshua has more suitable offense, but Fury has superior defense. Joshua has greater textbook method, but Fury makes his awkwardness work for him. Joshua is mentally strong and focused, however so is Fury and the Gypsy King has manner of getting below his opponents’ epidermis. each goliaths have quick fingers for his or her dimension and decent timing.
I supply Fury the mild typical edge as a result of I suppose he’s trickier (more creative), a bit greater versatile, and he has better recuperative powers. I also consider Fury’s method and punching energy is enhancing below SugarHill Steward’s suggestions, and his unpredictability/unorthodox method to boxing could throw AJ off.
A BUSY BOXING WEEKEND
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Hope you’re all well and staying secure. Boxing dominated my Saturday and kept my DVR busy with a lot of high-quality motion. I just wish to hit on a couple of highlights for me.
First the huge guys. Anthony Joshua’s highlight reel KO of Pulev became dramatic, notwithstanding Pulev didn’t offer tons within the fight. He changed into by no means in fact in it to start with but his exit opened the door for negotiations to begin for the Tyson Fury battle all of us wish to see. From the after-fight buzz I heard it seems the powers that be may in reality are trying and make this one take place. What an incredible nighttime THAT could be. I’m sure they are going to pay Wilder some step aside funds but what the hi there…make it ensue.
Edgar Berlanga has dependent himself as a must-see appeal but the attractiveness of 15 first-round KOs appeared to me somewhat of a burden as a result of he tried too complicated Saturday to get quantity 16. He obtained it, but he came out swinging for the fence where he should have just settled down and just let the KO take place. I’m bound after the first man receives into round two he’ll do exactly that. He’s a younger guy so he has lots of journey to benefit however might be fun gazing him no count who he is in there with.
Shakur Stevenson is all the time enjoyable to observe. with the intention to now not let this letter go too long i will just say that there are a couple of decent opponents out there for him however I need to see him in there with Tank Davis.
eventually, Chris Colbert….wow! I had in no way considered the youngster before. truly fantastic hand velocity and first rate punching vigor. His could had been essentially the most wonderful action fight of the weekend. Colbert stood there with a huge puncher and simply went for it relying handy speed and reflexes to win the day. i believed he took too a lot punishment notwithstanding. Does he always take it to supply it that manner or changed into he just making some variety of statement during this combat? I didn’t see him in the ratings on the Ring web page. the place does he go subsequent or who would you like to see him in with next? Whoever it’s I should be tuned in.
another year come and gone Doug. I have been with you and the mailbag on account that the Maxboxing days (over 12 years). Thanks for being there and for letting me take part. Can’t wait to peer what 2021 has in save…once we get previous the zombie apocalypse. Be smartly my friend. – David, Nashville
Thanks for the type words and holiday desires, David. yes, let’s hope we get back to some normalcy subsequent 12 months (that will mark the 20 th anniversary of this column – yikes!).
Anthony Joshua’s highlight reel KO of Pulev turned into dramatic, even though Pulev didn’t offer lots within the combat. The Bulgarian veteran provided some crazy stubbornness and monster balls, which resulted in eight and half rounds of professional resistance for Joshua and that i think that’s simply what the doctor ordered for the unified titleholder after 13 months out of the ring. If there changed into ring rust or lingering doubts about his durability, the Pulev fight helped dispose of that crap.
From the after-combat buzz I heard it appears the powers that be might in reality try and make (Fury-Joshua) take place. in the event that they don’t, they shouldn’t be in the promotional or network organizations.
I’m sure they’re going to pay Wilder some step aside cash but what the howdy…make it turn up. I’m now not so bound that Wilder will accept step-apart money. He looks fixated/enthusiastic about Fury and might are seeking for criminal action to drive the third bout.
Edgar Berlanga has established himself as a should-see enchantment however the acceptance of 15 first-circular KOs perceived to me a little bit of a burden as a result of he tried too challenging Saturday to get number sixteen. He got it, however he came out swinging for the fence the place he should have just settled down and simply let the KO occur. I feel Berlanga is a Prospect of the yr candidate together with Jaron Ennis, Jesse Rodriguez and Elvis Rodriguez (no relation). i love the knockouts and his take-no-prisoners angle. It’s decent for the activity. The super middleweight smasher will go greater rounds and pay more attention to his approach and deploy online game once he shares the ring with legit gatekeeper/fringe contender-stage opposition, comparable to Vaughn Alexander or Lionell Thompson.
Shakur Stevenson is always fun to watch. I’d say he’s an got style nowadays.
with a purpose to no longer let this letter go too long i’ll simply say that there are several decent opponents available for him but I need to see him in there with Tank Davis. I believe Stevenson is a stern problem for any true-10 junior lightweight, but a showdown with Davis would doubtless make for the greatest experience and probably the most entertaining fight because of Tank’s recognition and aggressive boxer-puncher style. I wouldn’t cling my breath for this matchup, although.
ultimately, Chris Colbert….wow! I had certainly not considered the kid earlier than. in reality miraculous hand speed and respectable punching vigour. Colbert is a different talent. He become part of the honour Roll of the brand new faculty of up-and-coming young guns that have been profiled within the cover story to the April 2020 concern of Ring magazine, which blanketed Stevenson, Davis, Teofimo Lopez, Vergil Ortiz Jr., Devin Haney, Ryan Garcia and Jaron Ennis, amongst others. I wrote that cover story and brought Colbert to the neighborhood because I consider that his skillset and talents is on par with the others.
His could were probably the most unique motion fight of the weekend. Colbert stood there with a huge puncher and simply went for it relying available speed and reflexes to win the day. Colbert changed into in with the correct vogue and mentality (Jaime Arboleda is a cussed, hard-headed slugger) to shine against.
i believed he took too an awful lot punishment notwithstanding. Does he always take it to provide it that approach or turned into he simply making some sort of remark in this battle? No, he’s continually an awful lot slicker and mobile than he looked vs. Arboleda. I consider he desired to make an announcement with the aid of standing his floor and outpunching the aggressive volume-hitter as a result of he turned into criticized through some following his lackluster determination over awkward former titleholder Jezreel Corrales in January.
I didn’t see him in the rankings on The Ring website. That’s because he wasn’t within the proper 10 previous to Saturday’s battle. although, I suppose on the way to change by using the end of this week. The Ring rankings Panel turned into impressed through both Stevenson and Colbert, so that you can are expecting to look each make their debuts in our one hundred thirty-pound rankings.
the place does he go subsequent or who would you want to see him in with subsequent? neatly, Colbert has the WBA’s “interim title,” which makes no sense, since the WBA titleholder, Tank Davis, is perfectly match and attainable to preserve the belt, so why no longer Davis-Colbert? leading Time would truly examine Tank’s talents. The WBA additionally has a “regular” champ (sigh) with Rene Alvarado, who would make for a enjoyable scrap towards ‘Lil B-Hop’ (youngsters the rugged Venezuelan veteran may be tailor-made for the Brooklyn native).
WHY IS TYSON FURY GIVEN extra credit score THAN AJ?
I’m a longtime mailbag reader from your Maxboxing days and fortunately it my first time writing in. i hope you are smartly.
After staring at AJ’s battle against Pulev this weekend, I searched for Tyson Fury on BoxRec and i was stunned to be trained that Fury has simplest ever fought three world title fights whereas AJ has fought 10 world title fights.
Are we giving Tyson Fury too a lot credit score (Ring Champion) based on his fights with Wilder and Klitschko whereas AJ has now not been given sufficient credit for steadily building a much bigger highly incredible world championship resume? by the way i like Fury, he’s container workplace, but two ‘marvelous’ wins obviously shouldn’t lift greater weight than AJ beating 5 world champions and a ‘domination’ of the realm’s excellent 10 heavyweights outdoor of Wilder and Fury.
I’m aware that the suitable 2 combating each and every different in each division qualifies for a hoop Belt but do you feel the variety of world championship fights and exceptional of opponents is given enough weighting when determining the Ring Champion?
It’d be incredible to get your concepts Dougie? Cheers. – Conrad ‘sweet C’ Wilson, Bedfordshire, England
I believe one can make a powerful case for either Brit having the greatest resume amongst heavyweights. Joshua has the quantity (in terms of titleholders faced, title defenses and belts presently held) but Fury has the first-rate (in terms of the rating/fame of the champs that he faced).
Fury beat Wladimir Klitschko when the long run corridor of famer changed into the reigning Ring journal champ, and that upset also earned him the WBA, IBF and WBO titles. Deontay Wilder was Ring’s No. 2-rated heavyweight when Fury confronted him (each instances), and his amazing stoppage victory over the American positioned the elusive WBC title in his possession and also enabled him to regain The Ring championship (a feat that only Floyd Patterson and Muhammad Ali have performed).
The optimum-rated heavyweights that Joshua has confronted (in accordance with the Ring) are Alexander Povetkin and Joseph Parker, each of whom were No. three within the magazine’s rankings. Parker become unbeaten on the time and the WBO beltholder. Charles Martin, who held the IBF title when Joshua beat him, was also unbeaten, however now not totally ranked. because of inaction, Klitschko wasn’t ranked when AJ confronted him; although, their passing-of-the-torch clash was the 2017 battle of the yr (and it additionally earned Joshua the vacant WBA belt). So, there become significance to Joshua’s eleventh-circular stoppage of the longer term corridor of famer, which also made for a tremendous event in the UK.
but Fury’s showdown with Klitschko in German changed into also a huge event, as become his rematch with Wilder within the U.S. Beating each “on their turf” provides magnitude to those victories, as does the fact that Wladdy changed into probably the most dominant champ of his era and Wilder become probably the most feared puncher.
NAKATANI VS. VERDEJO
That became an enormous win for Masayoshi Nakatani. The fight was one of the most superior this 12 months that i believed it should’ve been the main instead of the Stevenson Snoozefest. Btw, with the superb win of Nakatani, I consider Teofimo’s UD ultimate year over him made it even more particular (I also examine your tweet about it so I absolutely agree). What can you say about Verdejo? the person truly tried however his chin and stamina couldn’t. there have been some people over Twitter that claims JuanMa and Verdejo become nearly the same – I disagree. at least JuanMa grew to be a champ earlier than he obtained bulldozed assorted instances.
I grew to be a brand new fan of Nakatani so please inform me who would win if these fights turn up:
NAKATANI VS HANEY
NAKATANI VS TANK
NAKATANI VS RYAN GARCIA
NAKATANI VS CAMPBELL
NAKATANI VS LOMA
NAKATANI VS COMMEY
NAKATANI VS STEVENSON
P.S., if they say Stevenson became like Floyd when he became young, I completely disagree. FLOYD became a killer when he become younger and simply grew to be boring when he acquired older. STEVENSON is the answer to americans with slumbering disease.
thanks and chuffed holidays! – Djbiancafrost
And to you, DJBF, however rattling, that’s a cold observation to make about Stevenson. I think his fights will turn into more compelling and interesting once he shares the ring with combatants who’re on his degree, and it’s clear that at this point he’s handiest going to be challenged through correct contenders and world titleholders. So, deliver on Miguel Berchelt, Jamel Herring, Oscar Valdez and Carl Frampton (all of those junior lightweight standouts, plus Stevenson, are promoted with the aid of exact Rank, and various matchups between the 5 have been talked about a deliberate for a very long time).
I agree that the young, 130/a hundred thirty five-pound version of Mayweather was extra of an offensive force than Stevenson is at the moment, nonetheless it should be cited that the Newark native is barely 15 bouts into his seasoned profession. It’s too early to typecast him.
i might prefer all the light-weight standouts that you just mentioned for Nakatani, however I feel the japanese fringe contender (who may crack The Ring’s one hundred thirty five-pound rankings this week) would provide Davis, Garcia and Commey a troublesome combat. I wouldn’t be shocked if he stopped Commey since the Ghanaian veteran has been in some wars and will be shopworn, plus the former titleholder has the type of aggressive fashion that would put him appropriate in line for Masayoshi’s hard right hand. I believe Nakatani’s height (at least 6 inches taller) and attain would drawback the 5-foot-5½ Davis, and his sturdiness, stamina and aggressiveness might supply Garcia hell down the stretch of a ten- or 12-round bout.
What are you able to say about Verdejo? i will say there’s no title shot for him in 2021.
the person in fact tried however his chin and stamina couldn’t. I suppose the stamina become there (together with his general athleticism and solid fundamentals), his whiskers aren’t world classification. however’s now not just his durability that’s questionable, it’s his focus. He’s loses concentration and falls into repetitive patterns, which result in him being nailed the style Nakatani got off on him in Rounds 7, 8 and 9.
there were some people over Twitter that says JuanMa and Verdejo became just about the identical – I disagree. Me too. There’s lots of dumb asses with Twitter accounts. I needless to say JuanMa Lopez turned into a favored Puerto Rican who fell in need of the lofty expectations his fans had for him, however the two-division titleholder changed into at or close the right of the junior featherweight and featherweight divisions (and in the decrease suitable 10 of some pound for pound lists) at one time.
as a minimum JuanMa became a champ earlier than he bought bulldozed assorted instances. JuanMa ran into 2011/2012 version of Siri Salido. when you get “Salidoed” you’re under no circumstances fairly the same, as Rocky Martinez and Francisco Vargas discovered a few years later (even if they didn’t officially lose to the Mexican buzzsaw).
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