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Dougie’s Monday Mailbag (Frankie Randall, Gennadiy Golovkin, Kovalev-Melikuziev)

Dougie’s Monday Mailbag (Frankie Randall, Gennadiy Golovkin, Kovalev-Melikuziev)

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Dec
through Doug Fischer

R.I.P. FRANKIE RANDALL

hey Dougie,

I just heard that Frankie Randall passed away. i needed to talk a bit about my experience with this basically exceptional boxer who gave me one of the saddest moments as a fan ever. As I’ve outlined during the past, my first live boxing experience was Chavez-Randall I on the MGM Grand garden in 1994. i used to be a young teen that had began following boxing in 1987 due to Mike Tyson’s Punch Out on the Nintendo gadget and checking out that the video video game character changed into a true person that in reality boxed (i was 10 years historical on the time however grew to become obsessed with the activity). Chavez was my first actual idol, although, as you know, being from Mexico, he was the greatest name in our country. When he became #1 pound for pound, every fight, the country stopped, organizations closed, everyone saw the combat, very comparable to what we noticed with Manny Pacquiao and the Philippines. No single athlete has ever carried out that again in Mexico so that you can imagine how all and sundry felt when this unknown man, who came in dressed as a surgeon, not best outboxed and outmaneuvered the immovable object however really dropped him for the primary time in ninety fights. The combat changed into a helluva combat and when that eleventh round came, it turned into nevertheless sort of close, however seeing him dropped become surreal. So, when they introduced that Frankie become the winner, I felt a hole in my stomach. It turned into unhappy. After the rematch (which we also attended), we were tremendous satisfied that Chavez won, we didn’t comprehend that it turned into controversial unless a bit bit later. We have been in the higher seats and each circular felt close, so we obviously were biased and thought Chavez did win. There changed into no YouTube or any means to observe the battle once again, so it took me a few years to rewatch and spot that Frankie may still’ve received that fight.

Frankie became a victim of the circumstance and time. He turned into truly deserving of a right away third fight but instead bought a combat in opposition t strong and underrated Argentinian Juan Coggi, which he received in a a lot tougher than anticipated battle (his rematch became also unfortunate). He become a really enjoyable fighter to monitor and also very underrated ability shrewd. There’s a cause he gave these guys hell.

Some years later at the Michael Moorer-Vaugh Bean fight, I met him in person. He was standing there in one of the aisles of the Hilton, and me and my brother (who was 10 years ancient) approached him. He asked my brother if he wanted an autograph, he talked about sure, then he asked him if he had a pen and paper, he referred to no, so he proceeded to tell him: “neatly, it appears like we deserve to discover you one!” So he took us and walked all over the enviornment to find one. He was a category act, and hearing that the person became in such dangerous circumstance with pugilista dementia turned into sad to listen to. Guys like this won’t ever get the credit they deserved. He doubtless had an improved profession than some boxers which are enshrined in the HOF, a three-time Junior Welterweight champion towards two of probably the most dependent champs within the history of the division has to count number for whatever thing, and, this may sound controversial however I do believe there may still be a spot within the HOF for guys that did whatever thing first rate, something that modified the heritage of the recreation. That’s why I’ve at all times concept Arturo Gatti’s inclusion changed into neatly deserved.

So, I simply desired to share this with you. hopefully you had a very quality Christmas and even have an outstanding new 12 months. dwell secure. – Juan Valverde, Chula Vista

I had a pleasant Christmas day with the family unit, and i plan to carry my ultimate into the brand new yr, Juan. happy vacations to you and the entire mailbag readers that make this soon-to-be 20-yr-old column what it is. Thanks for sharing your concepts on a very underrated and overlooked former champion.

photograph from The Ring archive

Randall meets my standards to at the least be on the international Boxing hall of repute ballot. If a fighter didn’t have an extended and exclusive title reign, i’ll seem on the quality of his opposition and if he shared the ring with as a minimum two current (or surefire future) corridor of famers and became competitive in those fights, I agree with he deserves consideration. Randall fought two corridor of famers – Chavez and Edwin Rosario – twice every and he formally beat them twice. He arguably beat those two HOFers in all four bouts. then you definately throw in the victories vs. Coggi, who become sixty seven-2-2 (42 KOs) going into their first bout, Freddie Pendleton and Sammy Fuentes, and you obtained a career any fighter would be pleased with.

At his top, 1993-1995, Randall had it all: pace, vigor, balance, approach, reflexes, sturdiness, mobility, and stamina. Randall turned into skillfully aggressive. I admired his block-and-counter capacity and the manner he might all the time sneak body shots in with his quick and furious multi-punch salvos.

The high-volume, mixture-punching technician that handed Chavez his first loss would have held his personal with ANY first-rate 140-pound champion from ANY era – and that comprises Aaron Pryor and Kostya Tszyu. Granted, that wasn’t the peak version of Chavez that he defeated. The Mexican superstar’s body had a combat-worn seem the night Randall outboxed and outfought him, however Chavez still purchased the pride of a complete nation/tradition and the experience of ninety pro bouts to their fierce dance and made a battle of it. Randall had to cope with a master drive fighter who knew the way to opt for-off shots and kill the physique like a Golden Age exceptional, and, smartly, as you witnessed live, he rose to the event.

Tragically, Randall fought on long past his major. He become certainly dwindled the remaining time I noticed him combat are living – which turned into a ten-circular resolution loss to Oba Carr on the De La Hoya-Quartey undercard in early 1999 – and by the point Antonio Margarito smashed him (20 years in the past this month) he was completely shot. He would fight 13 more times over a 15-year span, all of which, together with his smartly-doc struggles with drug addiction, little doubt contributed to his mind harm.

With James Kirkland’s first-round stoppage loss from this previous Saturday fresh in my mind, I must wonder when these state commissions are going to begin to get up to an business that doesn’t be aware of when to say “no extra.”

GGG IN 2021

hi Dougie,

i know there’ll be no Mailbag this Friday (besides the fact that children Christmas Day or not I’ll investigate just in case) however i wanted to want you and your family unit a Merry Christmas and a contented New year and also to thank you for the enjoyment supplied by way of your Mailbag throughout 2020. with a bit of luck we now have extra to have a good time in 2021, both in boxing and in widespread than we now have had this 12 months.

although there had been some highlights in 2020 and one among them changed into the return of a private typical, GGG. such as you I don’t definitely want to see a third fight with Canelo, specially at 168 lbs. and with the latter chasing unification I don’t consider it’s probably anyway. So, what do you think the year holds for Golvokin? I’d love to see him take on Murata in Japan for the WBA if Canelo vacates at a hundred and sixty lbs. (appears probably) or opt for up the only belt he’s yet to dangle against Andrade. but when rumours have been actual that DAZN wanted marquee fights instead of aggressive ones for Canelo may they push for a similar for Golvokin? The fresh enlargement into Europe of DAZN and the returns of Sturm and Martinez makes me ask yourself if they’d be greater activities than Murata or Andrade specially if marketed as GGG chasing revenge in opposition t combatants who delayed his upward push to stardom by using dodging him. And speaking of manufactured grudges the fresh smack talk between Golvokin and De La Hoya makes it maybe the greatest low risk excessive reward fight ever for the massive Drama show. I’m sure any community would love to reveal the Golden Boy however disastrous his comeback is probably going to be. in its place of viewing Tyson-Jones I believe Oscar should still YouTube Camacho v Leonard. Fingers crossed he as a minimum takes a tuneup or two first.

adequate rambling from me. One legendary matchup before I sign off:

Julian Letterlough v Bobby Gunn (combat of the Christmas birthday boys)

most effective desires. – Steve done, Wales

I’ll go with the late Mr. KO with the aid of late stoppage in a rock-n-rollin’ slugfest between former cruiserweight title challengers (I’d provide The Celtic Warrior the area in a bareknuckle showdown).

thank you for the kind words concerning the mailbag column and the break/New 12 months wishes, Steve.

Gennadiy Golovkin celebrates his seventh-circular TKO over Kamil Szeremeta on the December 18, 2020 Matchroom combat card in Hollywood, Florida (image by using Melina Pizano/Matchroom).

There had been some highlights in 2020 and one in all them turned into the return of a personal universal, GGG. I’m completely satisfied the O.G. of middleweight veterans (9 years and counting within the Ring’s rankings and nevertheless No. 1) become capable of battle earlier than the end of the 12 months. He regarded respectable physically and appeared neatly mentally, knocking off rust and dealing on different thoughts whereas pulling down negative overmatched Kamil Szeremeta numerous times.

like you, I don’t really want to see a third combat with Canelo, in particular at 168 lbs. and with the latter chasing unification I don’t believe it’s possible anyway. For the checklist, I’m not in opposition t Canelo-GGG 3 as long because it happens subsequent yr. I feel it might be an incredible adventure and regardless of Golovkin’s age and glaring slippage, I nevertheless believe it might be a competitive combat. youngsters, I’ve seen these two future hall of famers share the ring, and that i’d like to see every other elite a hundred and sixty-168-pound matchups take vicinity before our man Gennadiy basically gets “old.”

So, what do you believe the year holds for Golvokin? I think DAZN, Sir Eddie and the decent individuals at Golden Boy do their most advantageous to make a Spring showdown with Jaime Munguia and if the O.G. turns returned the young gun’s challenge Hearn and the streaming platform make Canelo an offer to face his arch rival that he can’t refuse.

I’d like to see him take on Murata in Japan for the WBA if Canelo vacates at a hundred and sixty lbs. (looks possible) or select up the handiest belt he’s yet to dangle against Andrade. I’d be means more into GGG vs. Murata, however I consider Andrade is greater realistic given the fighters’ promotional ties.

but if rumours have been genuine that DAZN desired marquee fights as opposed to competitive ones for Canelo could they push for a similar for Golvokin? bound, if Oscar De La Hoya instructed them he’d be willing to fight Golovkin do you consider they’d say no?

CAN BEK BULLY KOVELEV?

hey Dougie,

definitely enjoy the mailbag every week and hope you and your family unit have a Merry Christmas. I’ll get correct to it with a couple questions and a few MMs.

i was in reality surprised to see Bek the Bully open as a high-quality favourite towards Kovalev. Bek has looked truly decent but in barely 6 outings in opposition t limited competition. i do know he additionally has a pretty good amateur pedigree however this is a big step up in competition while additionally having to circulation up in weight. in the meantime while Kovalev is past his prime and most lately struggled with Yarde earlier than getting KOed by using Canelo, he still was able to cease Yarde and hindrance Canelo every now and then. Kovalev has been in with the better of the greatest and should be capable of draw on that adventure. I find this to be an excellent crossroads battle and a 50/50 matchup but when I noticed the chances it become Kovalev +230 and Bek -300. I might truly see Bek winning this combat but may additionally see this being too lots too quickly. What am I lacking?

I hold seeing Spence and Crawford going from side to side on who’s the A facet and who should get the greater percent of the purse. this is a novel notion and may now not even be allowed for all i know but how about they simply agree the winner gets 60/forty and even 70/30 and decide it in the ring?

a couple of MMs:

Crawford vs Diego Corrales at 135

Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Arturo Gatti at 140

Teofimo Lopez vs Arturo Gatti at 140

Pernell Whitaker vs Mayweather at one hundred thirty five

Thanks. – Ryan, Cincinnati, OH

Your legendary Matchups:

Crawford vs Diego Corrales at 135Bud via difficult-fought majority choice (where the extra versatile switch-hitter has to rise up from an early rounds knockdown and survive some wobbly moments late in the wonderful bout)

Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Arturo Gatti at 140Thunder rallies late to secure a close UD in a fight-of-the-12 months slugfest.

Teofimo Lopez vs Arturo Gatti at a hundred and fortyLopez by using shut UD.

Pernell Whitaker vs Mayweather at 135Pea by means of shut UD.

Bek the Bully

i used to be really shocked to look Bek the Bully open as a high-quality favourite against Kovalev. I’m now not bowled over that Bektemir Melikuziev is the chances favorite. He’s 24 years historical and Kovalev is considered as damaged goods. despite the fact, i am shocked that the Uzbekistan prospect is an outstanding favorite due to the fact that his ideal weight is at 168 pounds and this bout should be at a 178-pound catchweight AND take region in Moscow.

Bek has appeared basically respectable however in exactly 6 outings towards restricted competition. true, and the handiest time he’s long past the gap (10 rounds vs. reputable gatekeeper Vaughn Alexander) he gave the impression of a fighter in want of extra experience despite pitching a shutout.

i do know he additionally has a great novice pedigree but here is a huge step up in competitors while additionally having to circulate up in weight. Bek is showing foremost balls in taking on the three-time champ in his home nation. despite the entire “he’s shot” talk from enthusiasts and media, there isn’t a single super middleweight contender or titleholder (outdoor of Canelo) that might tackle Kovalev over the easy heavyweight restrict (anyplace, not to mention Russia).

meanwhile, while Kovalev is past his leading and most recently struggled with Yarde earlier than getting KOed by using Canelo, he nevertheless was able to stop Yarde and hindrance Canelo every now and then. His legs aren’t long past and he nonetheless had some punch resistance going into the Canelo bout. What’s he acquired left after getting KTFO by way of the Ginger King is anybody’s wager however’s a deadly online game to assume that he’s received nothing.

Kovalev vs. Eleider Alvarez II (photo with the aid of Mikey Williams/ excellent Rank)

Kovalev has been in with the best of the most efficient and will be in a position to draw on that experience. His simplest losses are to Andre Ward, who turned into simply inducted into the IBHOF, then-unbeaten Eleider Alvarez (a good five a hundred seventy five pounder) and Canelo. He arguably beat Ward in their first bout, he outclassed Alvarez in their early 2019 rematch, and he gained rounds towards Canelo (it turned into even on some of the official scorecards after 10 rounds).

I discover this to be a pretty good crossroads battle and a 50/50 matchup but when I saw the chances it turned into Kovalev +230 and Bek -300. You understand what? people hate Kovalev, and odds makers are americans too. however hello, possibly you could take skills of it with the aid of inserting some money down on the underdog.

I could basically see Bek winning this battle but might also see this being too a lot too soon. What am I lacking? Nothing. It’s a competitive matchup on paper and i suppose it’s a big step up in competitors for Bek (who I’m regularly occurring with and intensely high on).

I keep seeing Spence and Crawford going back and forth on who’s the A side and who should still get the greater percent of the purse. Yeah, it’s f__king lame. significantly, if they don’t combat next 12 months, this matchup turns into the brand new “NeverEnding Story” and i’m getting too historical to pay consideration to that class of bulls__t.

here’s a novel concept and might not even be allowed for all i do know however how about they simply agree the winner gets 60/40 or even 70/30 and choose it in the ring? Makes feel to me, nonetheless it doesn’t make “company sense” to the combatants and the americans concerned in making the fight happen.

THE MONSTER

hello Dougie,

Hope you and yours have a nice time of holidays.

As we don’t have any pleasing in shape-u.s. this weekend, I determined to share some random innovations that attended me all through the weekend:

What’s the deepest divisions in boxing at this time? Welterweight, gentle heavyweight, light-weight, junior middleweight comes to mind first of all.

a couple of words on Naoya Inoue, who I suppose is the most underestimated of the P4P tops, ‘cause all and sundry is talking about Canelo, Bud, Lopez, Loma, Usyk or Spence however simply lacking out on a little eastern monster (maybe this is due to his Oriental origin?). Whereas nobody of P4P fighters, save best maybe Canelo and Usyk, had fought good 10 opponents one after an extra with this kind of consistency within the last few years. however to say the certainty not Canelo nor Usyk were capable of dismantle their division’s tops in such an remarkable method as Inoue does. To increase his legacy he needs to combat Oubaali-Donaire winner or Cezar Martinez to compile all belts or step down a weight to face the likes of Chocolatito or Estrada.

I consider Povetkin may still be rated better than Wilder for now, because of the chilling KO win against incredibly ranked Whyte, and Wilder’s devastating loss to Fury of their remaining outing. definitely he’s the creator of the KO of the 12 months! still is still a badass for any heavyweight. Fury and Joshua must appreciate Povetkin’s punching vigor & knowledge or could end the same approach as Dillian did (ask Joshua, he turned into very near experiencing it).

Some concepts on Tony Yoka – a talented new famous person of French boxing (to me probably the most accomplished of heavyweight possibilities right now). I call him the wunderkind of boxing. What he executed at best 9 bouts…! Stopping Dave Allen at simplest his 5th pro bout, blowing complicated Johann Duhaupas in 1 at his 8th, and soundly outdoing seasoned vet Christian Hammer at 9th bout. How far do you see him go?

P.S. i know that there have been not a whole lot proficient heavyweights in the background of French boxing, but do we name Tony Yoka the optimum French massive guy ever?

Cheers Dougie. – Roberto, Mexico

Tony Yoka

Yoka is a big skill. I ranked him amongst my proper 10 possibilities in a recent mailbag and that i consider he at the least has the skills to turn into a legit contender within the next 18-24 months and sooner or later problem for a major world title. The 2016 Olympic champ has the finest newbie heritage, herbal/athletic skill, and physical tools of any heavyweight within the historical past of French boxing. do we name him the highest quality now? No, I’d still say that’s the legendary Orchid Man, Georges Carpentier, the celebrated mild heavyweight champ who challenged Jack Dempsey for the heavyweight crown in 1921. Carpentier won the european heavyweight title with a primary-circular KO of common Englishman Bombardier Billy Wells (and fought heavyweight hall of famers Joe Jeannette, dropping a close 15 rounder, and Tommy Gibbons, dropping a one-sided 10-circular newspaper choice). but my wager is that Yoka will finally surpass the realm struggle I hero (who campaigned from flyweight to heavyweight but would have fought at one hundred sixty-168 pounds as a mature adult if he have been combating during this period).

What’s the deepest divisions in boxing presently? Welterweight, mild heavyweight, lightweight, junior middleweight involves mind first of all. My good 5 could be: junior bantamweight (one hundred fifteen), junior light-weight (130), welterweight (147), light-weight (a hundred thirty five), and junior flyweight (108).

a couple of phrases on Naoya Inoue, who I think is essentially the most underestimated of the P4P tops, ‘cause each person is speaking about Canelo, Bud, Lopez, Loma, Usyk or Spence but simply missing out on a little jap monster (perhaps here’s due to his Oriental origin?). He’s rated No. 2 (at the back of Canelo Alvarez) in the pound-for-pound rankings of The Ring and the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board. ESPN.com ranks Inoue No. 3 (at the back of Terence Crawford and Canelo). So, I don’t comprehend if it’s reasonable to assert that the eastern star is “underestimated.” an expert boxing americans know who he is and they trust him to be an elite fighter.

where is Inoue for your pound for pound listing?

Whereas no one of P4P warring parties, keep best might be Canelo and Usyk, had fought correct 10 opponents one after another with this kind of consistency within the closing few years. Canelo and Inoue lead the recreation in facing back-to-back legit suitable-10-rated opponents, however, again, they are additionally ranked on the suitable of the P4P lists, so they’re getting credit for their hard schedules.

but to claim the truth now not Canelo nor Usyk had been in a position to dismantle their division’s tops in such an amazing way as Inoue does. He didn’t dismantle Nonito Donaire.

To raise his legacy he should combat Oubaali-Donaire winner or Cezar Martinez to collect all belts or step down a weight to face the likes of Chocolatito or Estrada. If the Oubaali-Donaire combat is rescheduled, I’m certain the winner might be on Inoue’s hit record. Julio Cesar Martinez is a flyweight titleholder. He’s a little badass however he’ll deserve to show himself at 118 with the intention to get on Inoue’s radar. And Estrada and Gonzalez have their own plans 2021; they’re now not pondering about the Monster. If Chocolatito upsets the Ring/WBC champ, his aim is to additional unify the foremost belts of the stacked one hundred fifteen-pound division. Inoue would ought to reduce his arm off to make one hundred fifteen pounds. If he leaves bantamweight, he’ll be going north, no longer south.

I think Povetkin should still be rated better than Wilder for now, as a result of the chilling KO win towards highly ranked Whyte, and Wilder’s devastating loss to Fury of their closing time out. I don’t know about that, Roberto. Wilder lost to Fury, however Fury turned into No. 1 and that’s Wilder’s simplest loss. Povetkin become held to a draw by means of No. 8-rated Michael Hunter in advance of upsetting Dillian Whyte, who scored two knockdowns before getting bloodless cocked.

basically he’s the writer of the KO of the year! There’s a favored American junior light-weight/light-weight boxer-puncher who begs to vary.

still remains a badass for any heavyweight. proper. The Russian veteran continues to be a threat at 41.

Fury and Joshua must respect Povetkin’s punching energy & talents or may conclusion the identical method as Dillian did (ask Joshua, he changed into very near experiencing it). I’m sure they do.

 

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