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Dougie’s Friday Mailbag (satisfied New year! Ryan Garcia, contemporary round robins)

Dougie’s Friday Mailbag (happy New 12 months! Ryan Garcia, up to date circular robins)

Ryan Garcia in Dallas for his showdown with Luke Campbell. photo with the aid of Tom Hogan-HoganPhotos / Golden Boy Promotions
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with the aid of Doug Fischer

RYAN GARCIA IS the future

whats up Doug,

obviously, this is a very fascinating battle since it’s the day Ryan Garcia indicates us if he’s real or just an Instagram influencer. i like this matchup for lots of factors, the leading one is as a result of I think Ryan is the long run star of the activity and a win here will profit him recognize with loads of naysayers and here’s in reality a matchmaker’s dream combat as he can win this battle little doubt in my mind. and i do believe he’s going to win large. I suppose he’s a very gifted child it’s so filled with self belief that he’ll be in a position to take that self-perception and capitalize in the largest moment of his profession yet.

This combat kinda jogs my memory of Oscar vs. Rafael Ruelas, despite the fact that Campbell isn’t Rafa, he is a well-known respected fighter inside the hardcores however he’s additionally a confirmed B-facet that is very beatable. The sport of boxing wants a star that knows how social media and being prevalent works this present day and a win by means of Ryan would be an incredible win for the sport. If he can fit those skills with effects in the ring he will ultimately develop into the face of boxing. My prediction is that his quick left hook and power will surprise Luke and probably get him knocked down early a couple of times. I feel it won’t go past 6 rounds and Ryan will win emphatically.

Thanks, Dougie. chuffed New yr! – Juan Valverde, Chula Vista

satisfied New yr, Juan.

You’re now not alone for your prediction that Garcia will win massive tomorrow. He’s the odds favourite (around 3-to-1) and the alternative of many of the media, boxing insiders and pundits. The RingTV combat Picks appreciated Garcia by way of a sixteen-1 margin, and half the Garcia picks are by means of stoppage.

I’m determining Garcia to win on adolescence and skill, but my prediction is an awful lot like Tom gray’s in that I wouldn’t be shocked if the veteran upset the upstart enchantment. i know that’s wishy washy, but we’re simply asserting that it’s a good matchup in our heads. Campbell hasn’t fought considering the loss to Vasiliy Lomachenko in August 2019. That’s a long time far from the ring. He’s going to have ring rust. And Garcia’s is a quick starter with blazing quickly palms right through the early rounds. So, Campbell may be susceptible early on. despite the fact, if the Englishman – who has respectable steadiness, lateral move and manage of distance – can take the fight past 5 or 6 rounds with out taking too an awful lot of a beating, he can flip the tables on the younger gun over the 2nd half of the bout.

Oscar De La Hoya (left) vs. Jorge Paez. Photo credit: The Ring Magazine/Getty Images

Oscar De La Hoya had defeated a number of former champs earlier than his title-unification showdown with Rafael Ruelas. right here ‘The Golden Boy’ annihilates Jorge Paez. picture credit score: The Ring journal/Getty pictures

I trust you that Garcia has true famous person abilities, and he can be a celeb and an appeal in methods that you and that i don’t even recognize. Let’s face it, we belong to a distinct generation. then again, emulating De La Hoya’s success received’t be easy. For starters, De La Hoya was like a mix of Garcia and Campbell – the natural ability, good looks and charisma of King Ry, with the amateur pedigree, skillset and technical foundation of Cool Hand Luke. And Oscar turned into approach more battled verified than Garcia currently is when he and Rafael guidelines had their lightweight title-unification showdown in 1995. De La Hoya, 17-0 at the time, had already confronted three former world titleholders (Troy Dorsey, Jorge Paez and John John Molina) before the Ruelas fight. Like Garcia, the light-weight edition of De La Hoya become murder on brief dudes – he blasted Dorsey and Paez – but Molina turned into as hardnosed and ring savvy as veterans come. The Puerto Rican standout gave De La Hoya a hard 12-circular training that would serve The Golden Boy smartly going forward.  

Garcia hasn’t been taken the championship distance by way of any one, let alone a card carrying badass like Molina. but maybe Campbell will that veteran. We’ll see. We’ll additionally find out if Garcia can blast out a tall boxer the style he dispatches brief guys. De La Hoya did that vs. Ruelas (and then scored stoppages in opposition t Genaro Hernandez and Jesse James Leija earlier than the conclusion of the year). He earned The Ring’s 1995 Fighter of the year award by going 4-0 vs. Molina, Ruelas, Hernandez and Leija.

right here’s hoping Garcia aspires to emulate his promoter with his activity and follow-up caliber of opposition if he shines as shiny as Oscar did vs. Ruelas day after today.

circular ROBIN LEGENDS

good day Dougie,

i hope you had a very good vacations and searching forward to 2021.

I’m a little late to the party but I finally watched ‘i’m Duran’ ultimate week. excellent watch and it obtained me considering in regards to the four Kings. They’re no longer simply legendary because they’re all ATGs, however because they all confronted every other in usually memorable fights of path – now and again assorted times.

i used to be questioning what the other most beneficial ’circular robin’ quartets or quintets there have been on your opinion? What other 4 or 5 high degree guys all confronted each different over a, say, 5-10 yr duration?

automatically i assumed of Marco Antonio Barrera, Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez…but is there a 4th man to add to that group whom I’ve forgotten? i believed about Erik Morales but I wasn’t sure if he ever confronted Marquez.

The other glaring one that sprang to mind had been the heavyweights of the 60s/70s; might be Ali, Foreman, Frazier and Norton?

I wager Riddick Bowe quitting the scene robbed us of some thing particular within the 90s/00s.

Did Ward and Gatti have basic fit united states of americawith mutual opponents?

I’m battling examples in additional fresh times. perhaps your boy Chocolatito together with Rungvisai, Estrada and Cuadras is a existing one?

What do you think Dougie? I ought to be lacking an entire load of them.

Loving the mailbag – sustain the good work! Cheers pal. – Rico, London

Thanks, Rico. this is a captivating and difficult question. round robins between 4 or more excellent-degree warring parties had been normal all the way through the Thirties-1950s, and less so in all through the contemporary period.

One such round robin from the Golden Age that i might be a dream to hop in a time laptop and witness every showdown from ringside may be the 4-manner competition between light-weight champions Sammy
Angott, Bob Bernard Law Montgomery, Ike Williams and Beau Jack, which changed into waged between 1942 and 1955.

then again, the 4 Kings round robin between Leonard, Duran, Hearns and Hagler is essentially impossible to surpass in terms of elite-degree competitors and mainstream recognition.

Had Morales and Marquez fought each different, I feel the move-rivalries between the Three Mexican Masters (Barrera, El bad and JMM) and Manny Pacquiao would strategy the 4 King’s round robin that i used to be lucky to witness as a younger fan all over the 1980s. If Felix Trinidad and Ike Quartey fought, the three fundamental welterweight titleholders of the mid-to-late Nineties – De La Hoya, Tito and Bazooka – might have as a minimum tried to emulate the four Kings with their collection of bouts that protected perennial contender Oba Carr (besides the fact that children most of their bouts fell wanting the drama that the ’80s showdowns produced).

Three participants of the ‘super Fly’ Fab four: Juan Francisco Estrada, Roman Gonzalez, Carlos Cuadras. photograph by means of German Villasenor

youngsters the little guys lack the crossover enchantment, I consider the ‘super Fly’ Foursome of Roman Gonzalez, Juan Francisco Estrada, Srisaket Sor Rungvisai and Carlos Cuadras is the closest element we’ve acquired to the 4 Kings’ round robin when it comes to elite-level competition. From 2012-2020, these guys all fought every different in excessive-action, high drama bouts, most of which have been title bouts. best Estrada-Cuadras i was a non-title bout, and only Sor Rungvisai-Gonzalez II changed into non-aggressive (however the brutal KO nonetheless made for a chilling spectacle). How fortunate are we that their 4-means contention is still in play? We get Estrada-Gonzalez II (ultimately) in March and Sor Rungvisai is meant to get the winner (however I wouldn’t have an issue with Kazuto Ioka becoming a member of the circular robin).

here’s a pair hall-of-repute-helpful 4-approach circular robins I got here up with that you simply might want to are seeking out on YouTube if you have some time:

Ruben Olivares-Chucho Castillo-Bobby Chacon-Danny Lopez (who fought every different from 1970-1977 at bantamweight and featherweight); and Chacon-Alexis Arguello-Bazooka Limon-Cornelius Boza-Edwards (who fought each different from 1975-1983 at featherweight and junior light-weight).

There are some rattling good scraps in those mixes.  

MAIRIS BRIEDIS

hello Dougie,

Merry Christmas and satisfied New 12 months! i hope all the mailbag readers have been capable of have as excellent a Christmas as feasible in these bizarre times.

My question these days is the place is the love for Mairis Briedis? I absolutely agree with The Ring magazine’s determination to award Teofimo Lopez and Tyson Fury the joint fighter of the yr award, but i was surprised Breidis became, so far as I’m aware, not ever mentioned in conversations for fighter of the 12 months. He picked up The Ring belt and became a three-time cruiserweight world champion with his extraordinary win over Yunier Dorticos. I’ve at all times felt Briedis is a extremely underrated fighter, his simplest loss became a competitive choice to Usyk at his superior, which there’s no shame in and he has now established himself as the finest in a fairly aggressive division.

Do you compromise that Briedis deserves greater credit score? What can he do to garner greater praise? Thanks! – Tommy, London

Mairis Briedis. photograph courtesy of the area Boxing super collection.

In a year when the elite fighters in each division have been lucky if they have been able to combat once, I believe Briedis turned into a combat of the year candidate, together with Lopez, Fury, Jermell Charlo, Canelo Alvarez, Errol Spence Jr., Gervonta Davis and Joe Smith Jr.

What can he do to garner more compliment? equal as any champion this present day, fight more commonly and try to unify the primary world titles in his division. For Briedis that would suggest a showdown with WBC titleholder Ilunga Makabu and perhaps a rematch with Krzysztof Glowacki (in all probability for the vacant WBO belt, or he can face ‘Glowka’ if the Polish slugger regains the title vs. somebody else).

ONE BELT, THE RING BELT

hello Dougie,

I don’t know in case you could have time to read my take on next yr, i am hoping you are smartly and have a good looking new year with your family unit.

Have politics stopped you from jumping on Eddie Hearns rant “if the world bodies don’t allow AJ v Fury to battle for all of the marbles, they may additionally throw the belts within the bin” he become on record announcing to fight for The Ring belt handiest. With Eddie sidling up to Canelo is he positioning himself to take action?

How clean this may be when the so-known as elite service provider has Franchise Champions, e-mail Champions and now a Bridgerweight division. Would the journalists now not get on board and prevent recognising these crazy belts? It appears a month cannot go through when another new belt looks from nowhere. – AndyT

Teofimo Lopez is the true light-weight champ. settle for no substitutes.

The sanctioning organizations deal in volume, that’s for certain. The Ring is distinctive. You gotta beat the greatest and reign because the greatest to benefit our championship cognizance. if you seem on the combatants in the Pound-for-Pound rankings (The Ring’s or any one else’s), you’ll see that the majority of them at present hang Ring titles or they’re former Ring champions. those are the few, the proud, the elite. despite the fact, ALL warring parties, managers, promoters and networks want to be in the “championship” business. all and sundry wants to be “particular.” So, they’re going to embrace any title belt they can get their fingers on. Ring titles are challenging to come by using. The WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO, and so on. are extra abundant (and, as you understand, there’s a large choice of WBC and WBA trinkets).

I get it. I’m not mad at anybody who desires to be a “champion” or worried in the profession of one. and i don’t have an issue with the sanctioning businesses. The simplest time I get miffed is when the community or promoter purposely omits any mention of The Ring title in press releases, promos, combat announcements or commentary when one of the vital members is a hoop champ. That occurs a great deal. however it is what it’s. we will’t inform anybody how believe about the Ring title. Some warring parties embrace it, some don’t. Some promoters embrace it, others don’t. Some networks admire it, others don’t. And the equal goes for the lovers. You appreciate it and notice its value, but you don’t must seem difficult for detractors on Boxing Twitter or lurking round in comment sections.

right here’s my tips to you: if you’re seasoned-Ring magazine championships and world titles, let the fighters, promoters, managers and networks comprehend. when they appreciate the Ring title in a hoop championship bout, provide them props for doing that. once they miss out on or snub the Ring title, name them on it. courteously REMIND them (by way of electronic mail and social media) of the reputation and price of the Ring championship. Let your opinion be heard.

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